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Wednesday, 8 February 2017
The Independence Vote Fraud Conspiracy theory madness
Yet another Batshit mad Nationalist Conspiracy Theorist forgetting to take her meds
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| A whole lot of hilarious made up rubbish here, but why aren't we surprised ? |
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/arrange-a-full-complement-of-internaional-observers-for-the-second-indyref?bucket&source=facebook-share-button&time=1485428084
Sadly for poor mad Fran all this invented conspiracy nonsense has already been debunked and trashed by Wings itself and can be seen and read on the link below.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/our-man-on-the-scene/
And also here if the above link does not work https://archive.is/jKfMb
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More Nationalist Made up Drivel , on the rigging of Postal Votes https://docs.google.com/document/d/13OPs4c91U4ggD1XrHWGAig8YOoXbehVSEpGwaJJWtpc/pub
Wednesday, 4 January 2017
The Queens Wealth and Buckingham Palace Renovation Costs
As always Scots Nationalists like to try and Lie about where the money will be coming from for the renovations , so people can actually get the Facts on this UK wide Fact Checking website here
https://fullfact.org/economy/paying-buckingham-palace-cost-refurbishment/
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Why don't Scots Nationalist Seperatists complain about the costs of repairing Bute House too ?
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/2254464/nicola-sturgeon-bute-house-taxpayers-1m-bill-rent-repairs-since-2006/
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Whats the true cost of the Royal Family, What is the "Sovereign Grant" system and why was it was set up ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw
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So what is the Queens net worth ?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/personalfinance/queen-elizabeth-has-a-fortune-worth-over-dollar500-million-—-heres-where-the-royal-family-got-their-riches/ar-BBG2YHV?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp
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Considering Scotland doesn't send "Scottish" Crown Estates money to Westminster anyway, so therefore is not contributing to the funds involved why do Scots even care ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbnem7eLL8
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Scotland thrived after joining the UK due to it gaining the use of existing English long established trade routes without the constant previous fighting and losses being incurred between Scotland and England in previous times. Being in "Union" meant the countries were no longer completing against each other in trade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HnMLq8m9U
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Wednesday, 14 December 2016
The Westminster MP's voting for their Pay rises Lie.
This is an often used Lie by Scots Nationalists to suggest other Political Parties MP's don't turn up for important Votes but yet are self interested in voting for their own benefits.
On two counts it is always wrong.
1: MP's don't debate or vote for their own pay rises anymore, its done by the Independent wages and Expense's watchdog IPSA since May 2010, so any such meme along these lines is clearly complete rubbish and a deliberate attempt to tell a blatant Lie.
http://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/pay-mps/
2: Photos of empty benches simply don't relate to the events the poster is trying to lie about, they are photos of other minor debates that often run on late and sometimes even into the very late evenings completely unrelated to the events involved. It's really not unusual for minor debates to go on with only a small number of MP's in attendance. There is not anything unusual about this , minor debates that often are not policy related or new lawmaking can go on in the House of commons at anytime. The House of Commons is open to the Public who can queue to get in and and sit and watch debates in action...not guarantee you will find whats happening at the time exciting though.
So this post below is simply a Lie on all counts.
Below are some supposed photos from earlier Social Media postings on "grievance posts", the common sort of themes are very easy to see.
"It’s very fashionable these days to be despondent about the quality of our politicians. They’re all lazy liars who look only to their interests and neglect their duties to their constituents because they’d rather be grunting and snorting around a trough before sticking their snouts in it. And while the expenses scandal, resignations and court cases show that a lot of anti-politics sentiment has been provoked by the politicians themselves, it’s worth remembering that not every accusation levelled at Westminster is fair.
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On two counts it is always wrong.
1: MP's don't debate or vote for their own pay rises anymore, its done by the Independent wages and Expense's watchdog IPSA since May 2010, so any such meme along these lines is clearly complete rubbish and a deliberate attempt to tell a blatant Lie.
http://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/pay-mps/
2: Photos of empty benches simply don't relate to the events the poster is trying to lie about, they are photos of other minor debates that often run on late and sometimes even into the very late evenings completely unrelated to the events involved. It's really not unusual for minor debates to go on with only a small number of MP's in attendance. There is not anything unusual about this , minor debates that often are not policy related or new lawmaking can go on in the House of commons at anytime. The House of Commons is open to the Public who can queue to get in and and sit and watch debates in action...not guarantee you will find whats happening at the time exciting though.
So this post below is simply a Lie on all counts.
Below are some supposed photos from earlier Social Media postings on "grievance posts", the common sort of themes are very easy to see.
"It’s very fashionable these days to be despondent about the quality of our politicians. They’re all lazy liars who look only to their interests and neglect their duties to their constituents because they’d rather be grunting and snorting around a trough before sticking their snouts in it. And while the expenses scandal, resignations and court cases show that a lot of anti-politics sentiment has been provoked by the politicians themselves, it’s worth remembering that not every accusation levelled at Westminster is fair.
Over the past couple of years, a trend for internet memes about politicians has grown. Those graphics tend to juxtapose two images from Parliament, one showing lots of MPs apparently very interested in something, another with a handful of sleepy politicians loafing about on the Commons benches. Naturally, the first image bears a caption suggesting that MPs are debating something that benefits them personally, while the second claims they’re voting on something that affects very vulnerable people."
More information available here http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2014/11/the-menace-of-memes-how-pictures-can-paint-a-thousand-lies/
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Friday, 18 November 2016
The "We never get the Government we Voted for " Lie
1951 Scotland voted Tory; we got a Tory Govt.
1955 Scotland voted Tory; we got a Tory Govt.
1959 Scotland voted Tory; we got a Tory Govt....
1964 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt, however England voted Tory.
1966 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
1974 (February) Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt, however England voted Tory,
1974 (October) Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
1955 Scotland voted Tory; we got a Tory Govt.
1959 Scotland voted Tory; we got a Tory Govt....
1964 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt, however England voted Tory.
1966 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
1974 (February) Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt, however England voted Tory,
1974 (October) Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
1979, 1983, 1987 & 1992 we had a Tory Govt thanks to the motion of No Confidence in Jim Callaghan's Labour Govt that the SNP tabled. When Thatcher realised that the SNP were siding with her she then tabled her own motion of No Confidence, which took precedence over the SNP's motion. Supported by the 11 SNP MPs her motion of No Confidence was carried by 1 vote. The SNP are responsible for starting the Thatcher years.
1997 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
2001 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
2005 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
2010 Nobody got the Govt they voted for as we ended up with a coalition.
In 1999, Labour delivered devolution and no one can dispute that in 1997, 2003, 2007, 2011 and 2016 “Scotland got what it voted for."
2001 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
2005 Scotland voted Labour; we got a Labour Govt.
2010 Nobody got the Govt they voted for as we ended up with a coalition.
In 1999, Labour delivered devolution and no one can dispute that in 1997, 2003, 2007, 2011 and 2016 “Scotland got what it voted for."
So, the next time Nationalists claim we didn't vote for this, think hard about the real facts !
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Wednesday, 16 November 2016
Scottish Defence Jobs and Less Navy Ships Lies
Yet another stupid Nationalist Meme made to deceive Closing some bases and moving staff and Soldiers to other Scottish Bases won't loose Jobs. The aim here is too cut down the number of bases in operation not the number of people staffing them. So therefore anyone with half a brain should be able to see that these two graphics here are totally meaningless and unrelated to each other completely. Nationalists are becoming ever more desperate in their efforts to deliberately Lie to other Scots.
Nope , its not only 8 ships that is going to be built its a total of 18 .....that's 5 more than the original amount
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/type-26-frigate-order-confirmed-build-start-summer/
BAE also said that after beginning work on the Type 26 anti-submarine frigate this year, its shipyards are running at full capacity through the 2030s.
BAe have decided NOT to bid as prime contractor for 5 type 31 Frigates so these will likely go to Merseyside to be built at the winning Contractors own yard rather than on the Clyde.
See more on link.
https://www.ft.com/content/572e3292-b41d-11e7-aa26-bb002965bce8
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Why has BAE decided not to build the Type 31e Frigate on the Clyde?
See the info on this link
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/bae-decided-not-build-type-31e-frigate-clyde/?utm_source=TW&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=social
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An article in The Herald has oddly claimed that shipbuilding on the Clyde has “been dealt a blow” as new support vessels aren’t going to be built there.
The problem? The were never going to be, BAE aren’t even bidding for them.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/building-new-support-ships-overseas-not-blow-clyde-yards-theyre-not-even-bidding/
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Saturday, 5 November 2016
The "How Scots were cheated in the last Referendum" Lie.
Yet another garbage meme circulated on Scots Nationalist Social Media , if the arguments for Scottish Independence is so great then why do they have to make up so many completely ridiculous lies ? Have a quick look and scroll down for explanations on why this meme is just complete rubbish.
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Lets split the meme up and deal with it section by section.
There is no source given for the number given in the data given here, a sure sign that its simply made up , if there was a real source of evidence surely you would wish to show it. "English Tory Immigrants" well, well, well it appear this was simply written by a bigot so yet again no evidence or source of the data so most likely simply made up drivel.
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Postal Votes are counted at counting stations before the actual ballot boxes start to be delivered to them from the Polling Stations so they start on these first. Observers from both sides are present as well to make sure everything correctly and above board. This is when Observer's can count and estimate which way the Vote may be going. There were no prosecutions for "Vote sampling" as there was nothing done wrongly. See more here Why Nationalists tried to accuse "others" of illegal vote sampling" they completely ignored SNP MSP Humza Yousaf admitting that he was doing exactly the same thing. As seen on this Youtube Video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKihNnw8B_c So False, no crime was committed.
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All these accusations are simply conspiracy stories made up by people who either want to create rumours or from people who simply do not understand the counting process and misinterpret what they saw. All of these accusations are explained clearly and completely debunked by this Website post from
WingsoverScotland. So all are False, no crimes were committed.
See this Website link for more http://wingsoverscotland.com/our-man-on-the-scene/
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Tory Bookmakers ? Which ones would they be then ? Just a made up conspiracy theory and not a very good one. All the large bookmakers in the UK ie Ladbrokes, Coral , Betfair, Paddy Power etc are all listed companies that are listed on the UK Stockmarket and literally each has millions of individual shareholders many of which are UK company pension funds. So no large Bookmakers in the UK are "owned by Tories" or their immediate families. As for paying out before the result was known lets face it just how ridiculous is that ? It's true though that Bookmakers did predict the final result although that result was narrower than many predicted,Bookmakers are very good at working out the odds on who the Winners and Losers will be ..after all its what their whole business model is based on. So once again just completely False.
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I've never heard of this but lets face it highly unlikely, unless of course the writer might be basing their story here on some remote island or such like. More likely just another part of this made up conspiracy theory.
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Many Scottish Nationalists do have a fixation (or delusion you may wish to call it) on some great conspiracy going on behind the scenes and that everyone is conspiring again them , it is only in there own minds alone and has been an issue to the SNP as it demeans their cause, even the leader of the YES campaign has stated that there was NO bias from the BBC against the YES side. However Yes activists just love to play "Victim Politics" and do their best to promote these conspiracy theories to "help the cause". So again FALSE. There are two links here http://stv.tv/news/politics/1361970-nicola-sturgeon-must-tackle-anti-media-paranoia-in-snp-says-andrew-collier/ and here http://stv.tv/news/politics/294071-yes-campaign-chief-says-bbc-referendum-coverage-was-not-biased/ for more information.
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Even stranger then that no-one i know was ever heard of such a story, so we have to assume more made up rubbish to support the rest of this conspiracy story.
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This is just more exaggerated nonsense there were "some" businesses that made their thoughts known that thought separation might damage their businesses and affect jobs,also some companies put their companies names on lists supporting a No vote which they are perfectly free to do if they wished to but there was certainly no great conspiracy here. The words "most companies" used here is just false too there are dozens and dozens of large Scottish companies listed on the UK stockmarket and most simply didn't comment either way on the matter at all. Of course the writer has to get "Camerons" name involved somehow near the end of this meme to focus the made up grievances back on those "evil Tories" again. The side of the coin of course is that there were other Scottish companies came out openly and supported the YES side , yet the writer makes no mention of those ones at all. I wonder why not ? Once again just more made up grievances to support this memes attempt at political gain through made up false propaganda.
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Lets split the meme up and deal with it section by section.
There is no source given for the number given in the data given here, a sure sign that its simply made up , if there was a real source of evidence surely you would wish to show it. "English Tory Immigrants" well, well, well it appear this was simply written by a bigot so yet again no evidence or source of the data so most likely simply made up drivel.
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Postal Votes are counted at counting stations before the actual ballot boxes start to be delivered to them from the Polling Stations so they start on these first. Observers from both sides are present as well to make sure everything correctly and above board. This is when Observer's can count and estimate which way the Vote may be going. There were no prosecutions for "Vote sampling" as there was nothing done wrongly. See more here Why Nationalists tried to accuse "others" of illegal vote sampling" they completely ignored SNP MSP Humza Yousaf admitting that he was doing exactly the same thing. As seen on this Youtube Video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKihNnw8B_c So False, no crime was committed.
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All these accusations are simply conspiracy stories made up by people who either want to create rumours or from people who simply do not understand the counting process and misinterpret what they saw. All of these accusations are explained clearly and completely debunked by this Website post from
WingsoverScotland. So all are False, no crimes were committed.
See this Website link for more http://wingsoverscotland.com/our-man-on-the-scene/
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Tory Bookmakers ? Which ones would they be then ? Just a made up conspiracy theory and not a very good one. All the large bookmakers in the UK ie Ladbrokes, Coral , Betfair, Paddy Power etc are all listed companies that are listed on the UK Stockmarket and literally each has millions of individual shareholders many of which are UK company pension funds. So no large Bookmakers in the UK are "owned by Tories" or their immediate families. As for paying out before the result was known lets face it just how ridiculous is that ? It's true though that Bookmakers did predict the final result although that result was narrower than many predicted,Bookmakers are very good at working out the odds on who the Winners and Losers will be ..after all its what their whole business model is based on. So once again just completely False.
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I've never heard of this but lets face it highly unlikely, unless of course the writer might be basing their story here on some remote island or such like. More likely just another part of this made up conspiracy theory.
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Many Scottish Nationalists do have a fixation (or delusion you may wish to call it) on some great conspiracy going on behind the scenes and that everyone is conspiring again them , it is only in there own minds alone and has been an issue to the SNP as it demeans their cause, even the leader of the YES campaign has stated that there was NO bias from the BBC against the YES side. However Yes activists just love to play "Victim Politics" and do their best to promote these conspiracy theories to "help the cause". So again FALSE. There are two links here http://stv.tv/news/politics/1361970-nicola-sturgeon-must-tackle-anti-media-paranoia-in-snp-says-andrew-collier/ and here http://stv.tv/news/politics/294071-yes-campaign-chief-says-bbc-referendum-coverage-was-not-biased/ for more information.
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Even stranger then that no-one i know was ever heard of such a story, so we have to assume more made up rubbish to support the rest of this conspiracy story.
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This is just more exaggerated nonsense there were "some" businesses that made their thoughts known that thought separation might damage their businesses and affect jobs,also some companies put their companies names on lists supporting a No vote which they are perfectly free to do if they wished to but there was certainly no great conspiracy here. The words "most companies" used here is just false too there are dozens and dozens of large Scottish companies listed on the UK stockmarket and most simply didn't comment either way on the matter at all. Of course the writer has to get "Camerons" name involved somehow near the end of this meme to focus the made up grievances back on those "evil Tories" again. The side of the coin of course is that there were other Scottish companies came out openly and supported the YES side , yet the writer makes no mention of those ones at all. I wonder why not ? Once again just more made up grievances to support this memes attempt at political gain through made up false propaganda.
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