The pitiful GERS numbers Denier that is the Wee Ginger Dug.

 So not far away from 9 years after Indyref in 2014  Nationalist fake propaganda writers are still trying to deliberately deceive Scottish Voters on the Truthfulness of the GERS numbers 

The reality deniers who cling to the GERS figures « Wee Ginger Dug (wordpress.com)

We can though see and hear for ourselves what Alex Salmond said about the GERS numbers for ourselves here  (Alex Salmond: GERS supporter - YouTube  

We also know what Nicola sturgeon Herself said on the GERS numbers 

We can also see for ourselves on live Video what Scottish MSP's and Nationalist Economists themselves said at this Holyrood Finance Meeting.  Prof Richard Murphy at Holyrood Committee - YouTube   

The Scottish Parliaments own Economic Advisors published this Podcast themselves to help voters in Scotland to be properly able to understand Scotland's own Truthful Economic Numbers. 

GERS 2020: Socially distance from the myths | FAI (fraserofallander.org)   

The director of the institute is Professor Graeme Roy, a former Senior Economic Adviser and head of the First Minister's Policy Unit under Nicola Sturgeon. Fraser of Allander Institute - Wikipedia

Other Sources of Reference.

Scottish taxes don’t subsidise English spending - Full Fact 

Scottish independence would be 2-3 times more costly than Brexit, and rejoining the EU won't make up the difference | LSE BREXIT

Gavin McCrone on Radio 2 Discussing Scottish Economics BBC Radio Scotland - Good Morning Scotland, 02/03/2019, Long Interview: Dr Gavin McCrone

"The fiscal transfers made to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and indeed the North and Midlands and of England) are normal within a fiscal union – but would cease under independence or ‘full fiscal autonomy’. To offset the end of these fiscal transfers, some combination of tax rises or spending cuts would be needed, unless faster economic growth could be quickly delivered in an independence or full fiscal autonomy scenario" Updated projections of Scotland's fiscal position - and their implications | Institute for Fiscal Studies (ifs.org.uk)  

Leaving Union would be Brexit times Ten says Sturgeon's Own Advisor. Leaving Union would be Brexit times ten, says Sturgeon adviser (thetimes.co.uk)

Understanding why the GERS numbers are Factually true. 

The SNP currently OWN the GERS numbers as they have done since 2007 when they were voted into Holyrood as the Scottish Government. All the SNP's own annual changes they made to the GERS numbers since they were voted into office in 2007 can be seen here on the Scot Government Document Archive Website. [ARCHIVED CONTENT] Methodology (nrscotland.gov.uk)

The SNP themselves spent 6 years changing the GERS numbers to their own design and the SNP themselves chose in 2013 to use their own designed GERS for the basis of their own famous White Paper "Scotland's Future" and that White Paper Document itself highlights GERS as being the factual reference used by the Scottish Government to run Scotland.  https://youtu.be/GGR_M42sicg?t=115

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 Amy MacDonald Shows Her complete ignorance on truthful Scottish Economics 

Lets go through Amy's clueless rants one at a time.

1: The only people who say "Scotland is shite" are Scottish Nationalists themselves just as its Scottish Nationalists who are the only people who say "They think we are too small and too stupid to be Independent" See more on the link  here  The real issue is not that Scotland could not be Independent but of why the majority of Scots would vote for such a thing when it would mean substantially higher taxes paid by every one of us just for the same as we have right now or massive cuts to Public services (or a combination of the two) from the loss of  the Scottish Fiscal Transfer from the UK Government see link.

2: "Why do these folk want us to stay so much ?"  Who on earth are the "folk" she is talking about ?  Scotland had a Referendum on the Independence question in 2014 and it was only people living in Scotland who were allowed to Vote and that Vote was a No majority. It's most likely the people who voted No are numerically far more informed than Amy is.

3: "This Government won't subsidise an extra bedroom for those in need"  Why would any one choose to subsidise people to be able to keep an empty Bedroom(s) indefinitely in their House if on benefits, there is no loss of "subsidy" if bedrooms are being used but only for bedroom "unused". There is a dire shortage of Housing in the UK but meanwhile we often have people on benefits living in Homes with one and sometimes two spare rooms , isn't it right to try to provide an incentive for people not using empty rooms to move to smaller properties and then for those larger properties to go to people with bigger families who really need them more ? (personally i don't think it should be for one spare room but only for 2 or more spare rooms especially as there is a shortage of one bedroom properties for people to be able to downsize easily and there are often family reasons why people might need a spare room for children having to move home instead of ending up on the street for whatever reasons)

4: "...but its happy to subsidise a whole country ?"  Well its not really a "subsidy " at all but just an inherent part of being an equal partner in the larger UK Economic model which means the overall taxes raised in the UK are shared out over the whole UK (Pooling and Sharing) but you can still choose to call it a subsidy if you choose. Its already explained on the earlier link I gave here  and more explanation exists on this article from the IFS extract here " The fiscal transfers made to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and indeed the North and Midlands and of England) are normal within a fiscal union – but would cease under independence or ‘full fiscal autonomy’. To offset the end of these fiscal transfers, some combination of tax rises or spending cuts would be needed, unless faster economic growth could be quickly delivered in an independence or full fiscal autonomy scenario." More information available on this link here. A further third explanation if needed can be obtained from Fraser of Allander who are the Scottish Parliaments own Economic advisors based at Strathclyde Universites Department of Economics. Fiscal Transfer Explained by FOA  

5: "Absolutely sick of this patronising crap"  Well Amy as shown here the only "patronising crap " comes from yourself due to your own complete lack of any real knowledge on how the UK's and Scotlands economics actually works in the real world and if anyone is sick of "crap "coming from people like you who don't understand how their own countries economics works its people like me who have bothered to make that effort and got themselve's properly informed from reliable sources of information instead of from Sociopaths fake meme's and deliberately deceitful Nationalist propaganda blogs. 

Fraser of Allander also went to the bother of making a Podcast here explaining how Scotlands financial numbers are calculated and why you can trust and beleive them, you can find it  on this link here  they also wrote a blog on how to fully understand Scotlands annual financial numbers which can be found on this link too  

Perhaps by now some people might be asking why the SNP and Scotgreens haven't provided any help for people to understand Scottish Economics if they truly cared so much about you , well that isn't hard to explain , they simply don't want to make it easy for people to understand how real truthful ecoomics works because that would mean they could not lie and con the Scottish nation so easily as they do. Welcome to the real World instead of the invented Fantasy Economics of Scottish Nationalism. 

For extra info. Scottish independence would be 2-3 times more costly than Brexit, and rejoining the EU won't make up the difference | LSE BREXIT  The SNP were happy to spread and share the LSE's previous report on Brexit so why don't the want to talk about the later one by the same people on Scottish Independence ? It should be obvious , Scotland is being deliberately deceived by the SNP and Scot Greens. 

For more detailed Scottish Economic information see here  https://chokkablog.blogspot.com/2021/08/gers-2021-so-what.html

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Scots Nationalist Invented Lies on Electricity as always show that Nationalist's are not Bright Sparks

 

Another day in the life of Scottish Nationalism and another Lie to try to deceive their very own countrymen is once again wholly invented to attempt to spread that Lie.

The truth as almost always to those Scottish Nationalist claims is somewhat different 

But you don't have to take anyone's word that those Scots Nationalism meme's are Lies because with the information above you can then go and check out the actual truth for yourself here Final TNUoS Tariffs 2021-22 (nationalgrideso.com)

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GERS Freedom of Information request statement from the SNP Scottish Government

The Scottish Natonalists Eire is Better than Scotland because Scotland is not Independent pack of lies

We have all seen posts like the one above on Social Media and as always are merely deliberate misinformation made up to deceive by comparing things that are NOT "Like for Like"  otherwise known as "Cherry picked statistics" to simply deceive the gullible reader willing to accept them as "truth" without actually delving deeper to see if they are actually "Fact" or not. In this case they are clearly NOT. The notes below explain why Eire GDP is hugely artificially higher than it really should be if it were merely based on Eire's own assets rather than other Multinational companies assets being registered in Eire for Tax reasons alone. As well as the two notes below more explanations can be found on the link below.  at https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4482720

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NOTE 1 "The Eire Government doesn't have to spend billions on a health service. Everyone pays to have  private health insurance. You have to pay to have your weekly rubbish emptied. The cost of living is just scary. Social Welfare payments for unemployed people are about 200 Euros a week. Which sounds great, but the price of food and utilities is very high. They haven't experienced mass immigration like some countries have over the last 50 years or so. Ireland's population, compared to the UK , is tiny. There are huge swathes of areas where you will see 5 and 6 bedroom houses, standing on their own land. People build houses for themselves like this in Ireland. Also, the population is quite young. There are more young people than elderly. My son's 90 year old gran has been in a nursing home for the past 12 months. It is paid for by her private medical insurance that she paid her entire working life. Up here in Northern Ireland we call it Rip Off Republic. The cost of houses is eye watering, although I think they have come down in recent years"

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NOTE 2 Anyway, in the case of Ireland, the measurement of GDP is significantly distorted by the composition of the Irish economy, whose measurement is particularly volatile due to the corporate tax policy of the country, and how GDP is measured. If you took the numbers at face value, it's GDP grew by 26.3% in 2015 (FT, 2016) which is hilarious. If you actually dig into why the statistic is that way, you'll notice that it stems from multinationals domiciling their assets in Ireland (be it IP, planes to be leased to airlines and corporate tax inversions). As these capital assets are now "Irish", the numerator in the GDP PPP per Capita calculation balloons, even after how you adjust for cost of living, and when you combine it with Ireland's low population you have a high GDP PPP per Capita. 

Does this actually reflect living standards in Ireland? Probably not. Those planes, corporations etc. don't really have anything to do with Ireland (little to no local employment for these assets, proportionally low level of tax paid so doesn't generate a lot of tax revenue for the government to spend on services etc.), Ireland is just where they're registered. Hence their GDP measurements are particularly quirky to the point of uselessness. 

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( Norway's GDP is inflated purely due to having huge Oil Revenues that are 2.5 times higher than Scotland's   https://knoema.com/rqaebad/cost-of-producing-a-barrel-of-crude-oil-by-country )

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Here we have yet another Nationalist Fantasy Meme list of invented bollocks , take a look and then we will go through them one by one further below 

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Eire's GDP Growth is corrupted falsely by foreign multinational companies buying new assets and listing them against Irish Headquarters for Tax reasons this distorts the Eire true GDP Growth figure. A deliberately misleading comparison from the meme Liar 

From https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4482720

"Anyway, in the case of Ireland, the measurement of GDP is significantly distorted by the composition of the Irish economy, whose measurement is particularly volatile due to the corporate tax policy of the country, and how GDP is measured. If you took the numbers at face value, it's GDP grew by 26.3% in 2015 which is hilarious. If you actually dig into why the statistic is that way, you'll notice that it stems from multinationals domiciling their assets in Ireland (be it IP, planes to be leased to airlines and corporate tax inversions). As these capital assets are now "Irish", the numerator in the GDP PPP per Capita calculation balloons, even after how you adjust for cost of living, and when you combine it with Ireland's low population you have a high GDP PPP per Capita" . 

Does this actually reflect living standards in Ireland? Probably not. 

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Eire's GDP Growth is also too corrupted falsely by foreign multinational companies buying new assets and listing them against Irish Headquarters for Tax reasons this distorts the Eire true GDP Growth figure. Another deliberately misleading comparison from the meme Liar 

From https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4482720

If you took the numbers at face value, it's GDP grew by 26.3% in 2015 which is hilarious. If you actually dig into why the statistic is that way, you'll notice that it stems from multinationals domiciling their assets in Ireland (be it IP, planes to be leased to airlines and corporate tax inversions). As these capital assets are now "Irish", the numerator in the GDP PPP per Capita calculation balloons, even after how you adjust for cost of living, and when you combine it with Ireland's low population you have a high GDP PPP per Capita" . Those planes, corporations etc. don't really have anything to do with Ireland (little to no local employment for these assets, proportionally low level of tax paid so doesn't generate a lot of tax revenue for the government to spend on services etc.), Ireland is just where they're registered. Hence their GDP measurements are particularly quirky to the point of uselessness

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Ireland has both higher Salaries and Pensions because the cost of living in Eire is simply so much higher in Eire than it is in the UK and individuals have also to purchase  their own Health Care Insurance as there is NO FREE NHS as exists in the UK, therefore this meme is being deliberately dishonest by not comparing "like for like" or even attempting to explain why the differences in costs exist. Simply More Deliberate Deceit from the Nationalist Meme Liar.

See the following text from https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4482720

"The Eire Government doesn't have to spend billions on a health service. Everyone has private health insurance. You have to pay to have your weekly rubbish emptied. The cost of living is just scary. Social Welfare payments for unemployed people are about 200 Euros a week. Which sounds great, but the price of food and utilities is very high. They haven't experienced mass immigration like some countries have over the last 50 years or so. Ireland's population, compared to the UK , is tiny. There are huge swathes of areas where you will see 5 and 6 bedroom houses, standing on their own land. People build houses for themselves like this in Ireland. Also, the population is quite young. There are more young people than elderly. My son's 90 year old gran has been in a nursing home for the past 12 months. It is paid for by her private medical insurance that she paid her entire working life. Up here in Northern Ireland we call it Rip Off Republic. The cost of houses is eye watering, although I think they have come down in recent years

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Another deliberate deceit here , Scotlands taxes do NOT go to London , they are merely "Collected " by HMRC at the Scottish HMRC Tax Centre at East Kilbride in Scotland and most are then passed directly to the Scottish Government at Holyrood , some are also kept aside by UK Gov to pay Scottish Pensions, Scottish Welfare and Scottish Social Support payments which until the Scottish Government gets its own Welfare payment system set up are being paid to Scots direct from UK Gov rather than Scottish Government. So all we have in the meme is yet another deliberate deception. How on Earth do Scottish Nationalists think Scottish Pension payments and Scottish Welfare Payments get paid if they don't come from Taxes raised in Scotland ? From Scotch Mist ? 

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The first piece in the deception here is of course that both of these are exactly the same thing, High Street shops are "Businesses" , this is a common trick in Nationalist memes to simply make the list of invented grievances even longer than it needs to be. 

A simple search on Google shows that High Streets Shops and Businesses are suffering the same issues as those in the UK , so this statement is simply another Nationalist Lie to try to make Scotland look bad as part of the UK bad , when in fact its not worse than Eire itself. 

Why are so many shops going out of business? - RTE

https://www.rte.ie › eile › Brainstorm

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16 Oct 2018 - Traditional stores are struggling to deal with the challenges ... Significantly for Irish retailers however, 60 percent of this went to foreign retailers.

The economy may be booming, but Irish shops are dying

https://www.irishtimes.com/.../the-economy-may-be-booming-but-irish-shops-are-dying...

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Another deception , Ireland has no nuclear capability because it simply doesn't have the technical knowledge to be able to build a Bomb, if  it did have, perhaps it would have too. So the fact that Eire has no Nuclear Bombs has nothing to do with actual choice its because its  a choice that it does not ever have had to make. Scotland on the other is pretty undecided on Trident with "Against /For "more or less split 50/5 but defence of the UK is a UK non devolved power so the Nuclear Umbrella defence covers the whole UK and belongs to the whole UK. So once again just another Nationalist attempt at deception. The Majority of Scots chose to stay part of the UK and adopt UK defence policy. 

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This is a real funny one as its not that long since the SNP themselves were trumpeting the fact that Scots were in fact Sovereign in Scotland themselves. Simple Logic would explain that Scots are Sovereign in Scotland , English Are Sovereign in  England , Welsh are Sovereign in Wales and Northern Irish Are Sovereign in their own Northern Ireland where their own constitutional  law alone applies  however all these individual countries are legally part of the overall UK by choice so its only logical that where UK issues take precedence then its UK overall constitutional  law takes precedence. Nationalists seem to have forgotten that it was the majority of Scots themselves who chose this situation themselves Democratically.  However just because Scots are sovereign doesn't make Scotland an Independent State and Scotland legally has many laws that state that fact. See More Here 

 So once again all we have is yet another Nationalist attempt at deception Scots sovereignty does NOT lie with "English MP's ,The House of Lords and the Queen" at all. " Overall UK Government Sovereignty lies with the Westminster Parliament that Scotland has equal representation in on a % population basis as part of the overall UK. (Scots actually have better representation as Scots MP's represent 90k Scots on average and English MP's represent around 100k English on average but Scot Nationalists don't want to admit that simple fact either.)